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General / Lonergan and Scriptures
« Last post by Jonathan Bernier on October 27, 2013, 01:53:47 PM »
Hello, all. New guy here. I'm hoping someone here might be able to help me find resources on Lonergan and the scriptures. I'm not looking for material on Lonerganian approaches to the scriptures, as I'm already quite familiar with such work (especially that of Ben F. Meyer). I'm looking rather for material on how Lonergan himself was influenced by scripture. I find very deep resonances of especially but not exclusively the Pauline tradition in Lonergan, and am wondering to what extent is that the product of direct engagement with Paul's writings as opposed to engagement with thinkers such as Aquinas who were themselves deeply engaged with scriptures. Anyways, any help in tracking down literature on the matter would be greatly appreciated.

Jonathan
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Lonergan For Beginners / Re: Beginners
« Last post by Joseph Martos on August 30, 2013, 11:30:54 AM »
Dear dcl0djh,

Please send me an email or a personal message (available through the forum) if you are still interested in pursuing your understanding of Lonergan's works.

Joseph Martos
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Lonergan For Beginners / Working with others on self-appropriation
« Last post by Joseph Martos on August 29, 2013, 09:43:44 PM »
When I was a student in the 1960s, I benefited greatly from discussions with other students who had already gotten into Insight and who were willing to help me to keep focused on the forest, which was to work on self-appropriation, and not get lost among the trees, or all the details in the book. During my teaching career I never had the good fortune to work with students who were seriously interested in self-knowledge, but now that I am retired, I have time to do what others once did for me.

Getting back into Lonergan's work after being away from it for decades (although I have used what I learned about general empirical method in my teaching and writing), I am disappointed that there is very little mention in Lonergan circles about the centrality of rational self-appropriation. To me, this is where it has to begin, or talking about what Lonergan has written is little different from talking about what some poet has written. The goal (at least at the beginning) should be to find out what Lonergan is talking about, not to discuss what he says.

I am trying to find individuals who have already benefited from self-appropriation and who have the time and willingness to be mentors for serious readers of Insight as they work through the early chapters of the book and the sometimes daunting process of becoming familiar with their own cognitional activities in order to understand and affirm the relations between them -- not because of what Lonergan says but because they have experienced and understood what happens in their own minds. At the same time, I am looking for individuals who are willing to work on appropriating their own intelligence and rationality, even if it takes a good bit of time and effort.

I have already written to a number of people in the forum as of this date, but if I have not contacted you, please send me an email message or post your thoughts about this topic.

Joseph Martos
Louisville, Kentucky

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Calendar Events / Revisiting Lonergan's Anthropology
« Last post by Forum Administrator on July 21, 2013, 09:33:46 AM »
This conference acknowledges the sixty-year anniversary of Lonergan arriving at the Gregorian as a professor of dogmatic theology (and eighty years as a student).

It is intended to give a new impulse to Lonergan studies at the Gregorian University and the presence of students of Lonergan's thought from elsewhere will be gratefully appreciated.

The online registration is obligatory and must be carried out by October 15, 2013.
http://www.unigre.it/eventi/Lonergan/index_en.php
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Method In Theology / Systematic Theology
« Last post by mounce on June 03, 2013, 01:03:13 PM »
Just-wondering if anyone has read much of Louis Berkhof's Systematic Theology.  It recently became available for free at biblicaltraining.org, but I'm not sure how much time to invest investigating it!
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The Lonergan Colloquium in the fall of 2013 will be held on Thursday, November 7, 4-6 PM, and Friday, November 8, 10 AM - 4 PM.

This colloquium will take a somewhat different approach from the usual pattern. Darren Dias, St Michael's College, University of Toronto, is organizing a major collaborative project in systematics, with the goal of producing a set of texts over the next 5 to 10 years. We will help his effort get off the ground in this colloquium.

Robert Doran will give the annual Doerr Chair lecture on Thursday afternoon, on 'The Structure of Systematic Theology.' The time on Friday will be spent in collaborative and constructive dialogue. Further details as to format will be worked out over the summer.
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Calendar Events / Lonergan on the Edge
« Last post by Forum Administrator on June 02, 2013, 01:13:32 PM »
Information will follow.
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Calendar Events / Re: Info sought on Marquette conferences
« Last post by Forum Administrator on June 02, 2013, 01:10:53 PM »
Lonergan on the Edge is scheduled for September 20-21. The Fall Colloquium this year will be devoted to a new Systematic Theology project. The dates are November 7-8. More information on both of these will follow.
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Method In Theology / Re: Objectivity
« Last post by Richard Moodey on May 21, 2013, 07:52:20 AM »
Hi Romero,

In The Sociopath Next Door, Martha Stout reports that about 4% of the population is "sociopathic" ("psychopathic," afflicted with "anti-social personality disorder").  Few of them become mass murderers, but all of them lack conscience, the ability to form emotional commitments to others.  They cannot love, and it seems that they cannot be cured by psychiatrists or psychologists.

I mention this because they have been denied a gift which 96% of the population has been given.  The nature-nurture dilemma holds here also, because there appears to be a strong genetic component, along with some infant and early-childhood learning.  But there is a sense in which the five or six year old sociopath is in that state through no fault of his/her own. 

One of the things I am saying about the supernatural gift of love is that God is free to bestow it upon a sociopathic child just as well as upon a child who has the natural ability to love.  Even with the help of Divine Grace, however, it will be a monumental task for a sociopath to attain to genuine subjectivity.

Best regards,

Dick
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Comments on Catherine King’s “First Things First: Lonergan and Systematics in Education”

Catherine’s distinction between shorter and longer philosophical journeys, and her distinctions between three kinds of shorter journeys seem to me to be theoretically sound and pedagogically useful.  Lonergan maps out the longer journey in Insight, and continues to add to his map in his later writings.  The journey is a long one, indeed, and in some senses even a lifelong journey.  The processes of self-appropriation, intellectual, moral, psychic, and religious conversions, and becoming fully authentic take time.   For me, the value of Catherine’s work is quite practical: she suggests things I can do in my sociology courses that are likely to persuade some of my students to embark upon the longer journey.

I have quite a bit of experience in taking students on the first two shorter journeys: “teaching the theory alone” and “introspection exercises.”  What is most valuable for me is Catherine’s exposition of ways to take students upon the third shorter journey:  “verifying cognitional theory in student-provided external data.” 

Each student can provide external data by writing about a personal crisis.  Then she has students reflect upon the “shadow questions” that are implied by what they have written.  For example, one of her students wrote: “Once, when I was on a trip to England, …”  Shadow questions are: What is it? What happened? When/where did it happen? How serious was it?  She relates these questions to “desire quests,” innate desires to be in the world, to say, to understand, to cope.   The heart of this process is are movements, first from the sensible, written account to the structure of the interior life that grounds the sensible data, and then from the connections between external and internal data to the verification of cognitional theory as formulated by Lonergan. 

I have experimented with this kind of shorter journey the past semester in teaching a senior seminar that is supposed to bring together in a new synthesis the concepts and methods students have learned in their liberal studies core courses at Gannon.  Having done it once, I believe that next year I will be able to do it better (that does not mean that I don’t think my attempt this year was seriously botched).  There is a real advantage to doing this with seniors over attempting to do something like this with freshmen.  They are indeed more mature (some, of course, more than others).
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